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Old 10-02-2022 | 05:48 AM
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Originally Posted by Excargodog
Which is the point. It’s attrition that’s the issue, and cheap new hires simply facilitate management to offset the attrition. Screwing newbies doesn’t gain us leverage, it loses us leverage.
They don’t need attrition to stop. Yes you are right that SOME attrition replaced w lower cost first year does help them.

What you’re missing is we are losing a ton of first year replaced w first year which costs money. That cost isn’t even really the problem. The problem is they have so much attrition they cannot fly the fleet at the utilization the ULCC model requires to make money.

They don’t need attrition to stop. They in fact do enjoy some level of attrition to lower costs. They just need attrition to slow enough so that they can staff the fleet to fly a profitable higher utilization. Until that happens spirit will not make money. How can they slow attrition enough to staff the fleet that grows everyday yet still enjoy some of the cost savings from light attrition? Raise only first year pay and stall out everyone else until a JCBA and let JetBlue handle it.

Training capacity is maxed and they cannot staff the fleet that keeps getting deliveries. SLOWING not ending attrition is their best case cost wise and their goal. That is why only raising first year is what they want. That’s why frontier did it and why they won’t see a contract for years.

You need to understand we all wanted first year to be much higher last time around and spirit was dead against it because they could always upguage training capacity if needed and lower experience requirements. Covid hit and they pushed back the deliveries. Now present day they have experience about as low as they can take it any training capacity is maxed out. The last 4 years low first year pay did not do much for the pilot group and hurt first year guys. Today that is completely different and the ONLY reason spirit is at the table. Your drum beating had some merit a couple years ago but today you’re missing the big picture completely. I suggest you get a clue.
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