Originally Posted by
Hedley
TA1 doesn’t stand a chance of passing, but if it did, United pilots would decertify their religion before they decertify ALPA. If it passed, the flushing of the turd reps would intensify, attracting new pilots would take a hit due to even worse work rules, and United next would be put on hold while the training center collapses. Instructors would leave TK, LCA’s would quit, and those that stayed would only be signing students off at the end of trips to ensure that they get paid. I suspect that Kirby wants TA1 to go away even more than we do. Let November 1 come and go, put TA1 behind us, and focus on the new deal.
You sound so confident in TA1 failing. I don’t disagree with you. I said myself, I would take that bet. I said ALPA National will not.
ALPA knows too much $$ is on the line to take that chance.
And if you don’t think United would get rid of ALPA if TA1 ended up passing, your kidding yourself. That’s the old United, brother. The legacy guys here are already the minority. We have 2000 pilots new this year alone.
Also, if u think TK and LCAs leave if TA1 passes, I think you forgot to read the TA. While their are concessions for TK and LCAs, they also get bigger raises and TK gets a huge raise. It doesn’t mean TK instructors and LCAs wouldn’t be ****ed, but that’s because they know they won’t always be an LCA or instrcutor. They definitely wouldn’t want to work under the TA1 turd as a jr lineholder or a reserve CA.
No one would leave TK and the company would have the United Next they wanted from a training perspective. Sr and med seniority pilots would be ****ed and probably stop picking up OT over the holidays. When they see the new Jr guys getting thr premium pay, the Sr guys would start picking it up again.
New pilots would not be hard to find, we have 500 NEW AC on order due to be delivered in the next 5 years and would have the best payrates for the next year most likely (minus Alaska).
Dont be naive in thinking there’s no chance this turd passes.
Make sure you talk to every single person you know and make sure to share with them why they need to log on and vote no. Remember also that the vote stopped in the middle of the summer and some pilots think TA1 was already cancelled.
This would be the biggest blunder in all of aviation unions, but it still wouldn’t stop training or hiring.