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Old 10-27-2022 | 08:24 AM
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terks43
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Originally Posted by Ravenwing
Envoy has better soft pay rules; 1:2 duty and 1:4 trip rigs and 100% deadhead pay. Mesa has no rigs and 60% deadhead pay. Envoy has a new minimum of 12 days off per month that I think begins in January, Mesa has a minimum of 11 days off. Envoy has AQP training, Mesa does not.

Envoy has lots of bonuses that you will get to keep if you plan to retire there, Mesa is only offering bonuses for non-flying instructors. Envoy will issue you an iPad, Mesa will make you buy your own but will give you $40 a month towards maintaining it.

Envoy will give you up to ten years of longevity credit for part 121 experience towards pay, vacation, and retirement. Mesa said in their TA that they might offer longevity credit at their discretion but they are not advertising longevity credit to new hires at this time. Mesa’s starting pay is higher, but with Envoys longevity credit you will receive higher pay there plus bonuses.

Mesa guarantees 76 hours pay per month to CRJ and E175 pilots, Envoy guarantees 75 hours to reserve pilots and 72 hours to line holders. Both airlines will junior man you and assign ready reserve, and you will be junior a long time as a DEC. Overall, I think Envoy has the QOL edge, the extra day off is worth a lot all by itself.
Something to add to this, you can’t be junior manned at Mesa. They can and will try but all you have to say is unavailable and there is nothing they can do about it.
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