Yet we were never allowed a peek at the company opener. That would have set the tone. They, as always, intend to slow walk negotiations unless they get what they want ie. productivity and profit sharing gives. You keep going back to the ALPA conceptual opener without questioning the company opener. Which was the real brick on the ledger. Record profits and record pilot demand equals the only opportunity for restorative gains. What you would have us do, if even available, would have been to squander the best ever environment for a pittance.