Originally Posted by
Excargodog
Management “allowed to raise first year pay” is a tacit admission that it is the NK pilot group, not management, that is screwing over our first year pilots.
You know, it’s funny, AS doesn’t screw over their junior pilots, but AS just got a much better payscale than NK. B6 doesn’t screw over their junior pilots, but they have a higher payscale than NK. None of the big four screw over their first year pilots, but they all have higher payscales than NK.
I again ask the question:
How long must this tactic not work before you’ll admit it’s not working? Because it sure hasn’t worked yet.
I don’t know why you can’t just come to terms with the fact that two things can be true at once. Our 1st year pay should be higher AND the only reason management is at the table right now is because our 1st year/training pay is so horrendous. What do you suggest we do? Agree to let management just raise 1st year pay? Lol c’mon man just concede defeat here. Stop trying to make the argument that we would have just as much or more leverage right now if we had industry average 1st year pay. We wouldn’t. It doesn’t make it right but it also is the main reason we’re even having discussions with management right now. It is what it is. Now we can argue about what the right thing is to do at the negotiating table for 1st year guys going forward (I agree with you we need to take care of them) but for you to continue to twist yourself into a pretzel and try and convince everybody that 1st year pay isn’t the only reason that management is at the table right now is just ridiculous.