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Old 11-06-2022 | 02:34 PM
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jaxsurf
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Originally Posted by Airfix
Your statement is worded in your favor and I'd reword it as: "Not wanting to negotiate a benefit for one slice of the pilot group that hurts a different slice of the pilot group."
Your statement is worded in your favor and I’d reword it as: “Wanting to get rid of something that provides a clear benefit to greater than 50% of the pilot group because some non-commuters think their SeNiOrItY has been broached is ridiculous.”

Also, no contractual gain ever benefits every pilot on the list equally. Negotiating something that benefits the majority of the pilot group, and makes their job FAR easier, is a way better deal than not negotiating that thing because you incorrectly think your seniority is somehow broached in the process.

And anyway, not getting a seat while nonrevving is not being ‘harmed.’ Nonrevving is not a guaranteed seat. If you don’t get on, you have lost nothing. You didn’t have a seat before, you don’t have one now. No harm was caused. You’re exactly as whole after the flight leaves without you, as you were before the flight started boarding.

It certainly isn't the LOA as written that just expired. There are too many ways to abuse the system.
This is the only thing we agree on. The old PSC agreement was ridiculously open ended.

1) Without positive space commuting all non-revenue travel was based on seniority, whether you are going to work or not.
And that’s absurd. Someone’s leisure travel is a higher priority than someone else going to work? That’s stupid. The air line exists to make money. In order for the air line to make money, we need pilots to fly planes. We don’t need cheapskates adding to the aircraft’s gross weight, which reduces our profitability.

2) Positive space commuting benefits one section of the pilot group at the detriment of another. There is no denying that positive space commuting (as well as other items such as load factors and frequency) means less open seats for non-revs.
Living in base is a choice. Your failure to exercise a negotiated part of the PWA is your choice (if PSC were in the PWA); PSC benefits everyone, you just choose not to utilize it.

Also, being mad about something that benefits the majority of the pilot group (actually it benefits everyone, some just choose not to take advantage of the benefit) when the company knowingly sells more tickets than they can physically provide is silly. They’re literally taking people’s money knowing they can’t provide the service for which they were given that money. They’re gambling that some people won’t show up, which sometimes occurs; sometimes they get caught and they have to pay someone off. Overbooking should be illegal.

If you’re mad about there not being enough empty seats for nonrevving, get mad at the company for overbooking, not your fellow pilots who are just trying to make the company money.
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