atpwannabe, I started with Delta in October, 1966. I was an 8 year veteran of the USMC with 1350 hours of single engine fighter time (that won`t get you a job with a commuter now). I started as a flight engineer on DC6&7`s. I had a wonderful career, flew the L100, DC 9`s DC 8`s, L1011, MD 80`s 757, and finally the 767. I flew both domestically and internationally. I made a lot of friends, a lot on money, got a wopper of a retirement check. I`m not sure what exactly the "Glory Days" are, but if they existed, I had them, and they will be back. The pendulum swings both ways. There is an old saying in the Marine Corps.." a bitching Marine is a happy Marine"...must be a few real happy guys on this forum....