Originally Posted by
MinRest
I really try not to get into the ****ing contest between NJA and AS but I know that my buddy on the 350, hired when I was hired, flying the 7/7, will not clear 200k this year. I made significantly more than that on the old contract on Year 3 FO pay without picking up open time. Arguing pay AND QOL differences between major airlines and NJA is absolutely silly. NJA has had an identity crisis for closing in on two decades now. All I heard in 2015 was how NJA was like an airline, and deserved pay and QOL like an airline. Clearly that didn't happen but the yardstick NJA pilots continue to make is how it compares to the airlines. Because JL had a crappy airline career, he wants everyone else to have a crappy airline career thus oversells the fantasy world he lives in because he is an A teamer. It is a reality few people experience at NJA and he still falls short significantly in pay to his pears with similar YOS at a major airline. QOL? Forget it, he works 22 days a month...
I have said time and time again that NJA is a great company overall, no company is perfect. It is absolutely a great fit for the right person. But I refuse to watch JL and others type unrealistic BS to try and sell NJA to prospective new hires. The pathetic thing is, he isn't even a recruiter for the company but he has a complete inability to give a realistic outlook on what a typical new hire can expect. Then again he hasn't been in touch with reality in decades, and only thinks about himself, which is why he has pathetic meltdowns on NJASAP that keep getting him temporary bans.
I get it man. Truly I do. I worked with the phenomenal speeder a few times. He made his bed and he will defend it till the day he dies.
I worked at NJA for quite a few years, it’s AAA ball is how I think of it. Very good AAA ball club at that. If you want to do corporate, you can not beat NJA hands down. Good benefits, all right salary, dispatchers and travel arranged for you. Not bad at all. BUT just look at how many guys leave United to go to NJA and then look at the opposite flow of pilots. It’s a one way street pretty much. I have many friends that still work there, I truly am happy when they tell me they got 2K in FDP pay. When they say they got 500 in tips. I am so happy for them but I don’t tell them I am sitting at home on a trip that was bought off me for 4K for IOE because that will just depress them and sometimes people need to win a few. When it comes to complete compensation a major can not be beat end of story. Most people get that if they are honest with themselves, BUT the guy you are arguing with wasn’t even honest about speeding going into Philly. You have to be honest with oneself, that’s the first step.
I too wish honesty was exhibited on this site from a few other cheerleaders. I was sold a bill of goods when I started at NJ. It was mostly lies and sunshine blown up my butt by a unicorn jumping over a rainbow. So yea I understand why you respond to the phenomenon speeder but truly it isn’t worth it. He likes getting in the mud way too much and all it does is get your suit dirty.
Best of luck to you all!