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Old 11-15-2022 | 10:25 AM
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BiffleBalls
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Originally Posted by Aero1900
You're going to hate this answer.

If you hate the way the place is run that much, you should go work somewhere else.

This is a ULCC now. Been that way for about 10 years now. It is what it is. It's a ULCC man....
Management teams come and go. I think Biffle and the Boys are team number 7. I'm going to be here long after they are gone. We might stay a sh*tty ULCC for another 30 years, we may not. We might merge, we might totally change. Who knows.

I don't run the airline. I don't make customer service decisions. I fly the plane, get paid and go home to my family. I try to make the most positive impact possible at work. I take care of my crew and passengers the best I can but that's it. I don't run the airline.

I would like to refer you to my answer to you earlier in the Nov 28th class thread
Actually your answer is spot on. It is a choice and I've analyzed every side I can think of while displaying all the facial expressions of a monkey handed his first Rubic's Cube. I've run numbers and thought about how it will affect my family vs. where I am in my career etc etc.. Recession looming.. I'd take a massive hit if I left and that means I'm most likely going to be here for the long haul. Happy to make your day. Anyhow man, you just totally dismissed all of El Gipple's points and data by saying "hiring environment" which was lazy at best and completely off point. He brings up good points in his impressively formatted post which is clearly finely tuned to push issues. Don't you feel they are worth a think? Your either on board with helping change the course of this place and bringing about a better contract through communications like this or you're not. Which is it? The car is stalled and you're pushing on the wrong end. The idea that you cringe at any negativity directed at Frontier is ridiculous.
Yes! It is a ULCC, I think it's a great model and I can get behind the idea we are providing a discount service for those who choose to utilize it. What has changed here is that we have crossed the line into being a sand trap for peoples money. The "new" model they have come up with is to scam our passengers in order to make more money through their coveted "ancillary revenue streams". Hanging onto to 220 odd million of customers money and being THE ONLY US AIRLINE TO BE FINED for doing so is the latest badge of pride we all get to wear.
So pilots are leaving. 4 out of 5 FO's I fly with have their apps out. Their beefs are those listed on this forum, but pay is only one of a constellation of issues we all have with this airline. Another funny thing is we get these videos in Docunet with overseas accents talking about "building the brand" and then they go out and drag it through the dirt! It's all a bit schizophrenic.

Last edited by BiffleBalls; 11-15-2022 at 10:38 AM.
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