Originally Posted by
Jonny Drama
Wasn’t Alaska amendable for less than 18 mos? They got their signing bonus plus some small form of retro that got Captains close to 40k and FOs close to 30k? 6% puts us in that ballpark…. Now double it, minimum, since we are approaching 36 months.
Also I did some quick math about a month ago and believe our 12 year 73 A rates were about 5% ahead of theirs. Didn’t their 12 year A’s get a 14% raise DOS (and some other years/ categories up to 22%)? We are going to need to get at least 19-20% minimum to stay 5% ahead. And me being a lowly FO I am going to need at least 25% to keep up with Alaska. It’s time, the bill is past due.
Amendable since Apr 1, 2020.
Contract effective mostly Dec 1, but payrates effective back to Sept 1. PBS implementation will take a while, those benefits won’t be seen til early 2024.
Signing bonus (not really retro) was decided to be Oct 1 2021. Apr 2020-Sept 2021 were written off as pandemic losses where the airline was losing billions and so the union and company agreed to starting look back at Oct 1, 2021. So Oct 2021 - Aug 2022 was 11 months. 3k for CAs and 2k for FOs. CAs get 33k, FOs 22k.
Plus the Sept and Oct retro for this year, old payrates to new payrates for these two months. For CAs that’s another 7-8k. About $40-41k net overall signing bonus (Covid modified retro).
Our 12th yr was 266.29
3 yr contract, DOS is 306, 318, 331.
Sept 2023 and 2024 a one time look at AA, DL, UA, SW. Add all 4 , divide by 4 for an average rate and get bumped up to that if that’s higher. JetBlue included in calculation only if they get a new contract before then.
401K is 16% but if 3 / 5 big pax carriers get 17%, AS gets bumped to 17%.