Originally Posted by
hummingbear
Are you saying you’re willing to allow the company to use the LOA 5% as credit toward current section 6? That’s one of the major failings that sunk TUMI. That 5% was already bought & paid for by United pilots & in the backlash to an awful contract proposal, our union is on record as saying we won’t accept a deal that is artificially lower by 5% because of our LOA raise. I’ve been saying all along, TA2 must exceed inflation on its own on DOS. 13% won’t cut it unless there are some major changes to trip credit calculations, etc. If you want to match Delta by giving your LOA raise back to the company, I think you’re in the minority; but maybe some other folks here can sound off on the question.
I think the idea is that the advertised percentage raise is the window dressing, the actual pay rate for a specific A/C, seat and longevity is the data point that matters. So it’s not as simple as saying the 5% pandemic LoA raise “doesn’t count.” If we got the same percentage raise DAL’s AiP is advertising, we’d essentially be ~5% above their rates. Sure that sounds great, but is that a realistic goal or where we want to focus the economic value of our negotiating capital? Many on here claim hourly rates are not important…. I wouldn’t go that far, but demanding 18% DoS will likely reduce gains elsewhere in the contract
The most important piece of leverage we have of course is that we can vote down anything we feel is sub-par, but it’s not as simple as ignoring things we don’t like in favor of the things that fit our objectives.