Originally Posted by hummingbear

For anyone reading this and actually considering 13% DOS as reasonable, you may want to start reading your union communications. After we received our LOA 5%, the MEC statement was that they will not accept any deal that applies that raise to our section 6 negotiations. A Delta minus 5% deal (can’t believe this is even being discussed as an acceptable target) would clearly fall into that category; so if you’re in favor of that proposal, you’re actually undercutting your own representation- even those reps who voted to approve the original TUMI TA.

As has been discussed, pay rates don’t live in a vacuum, & it is possible to see contractual improvements (daily credit guarantees, for example) that push a lower percentage increase into the acceptable range; but absent some very significant gains elsewhere in the contract, 13% will never even see the light of day- the suggestion that “most UAL pilots know better” aside.

Because of Delta’s snap-up, 18% DOS for example would still put us behind them in pay, but we would at least be advancing the industry standard. Frankly it’s the least we could do after we botched our position as first negotiators & deferred to them to do all the heavy lifting. The fact that even now we’re talking about a DAL -5 contract underscores how we managed to get in the [TUMI] position we are in presently.