A key point is Deltas now just getting pay banding, so 18% is very generic calculation and many people will be getting more there, 22%+ DOS.

We don't need to spend much negotiating capital digging out of that hole like DAL and "spending" negotiating dollars should be able to put that elsewhere, or higher end rates.

In other words, It's not apples to oranges in rates/gains either giving the disparate starting points, and we should be moving the ball forward just as far as DAL did, $7.2 billion in new costs, 45% increase in value over 4 years. And yes, that will end up in a smidge more than DAL +1% the way I see it roughly speaking.