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FXLAX
You didn’t say it, I don’t think, but it seemed to me at least like you insinuated it with your comment about coming here not knowing we do hub turns. Maybe I also misread you?
Anyway, I think almost everyone comes here knowing the warts that freight brings to our schedules. But just like 318 said (I don’t agree with all his sentiments), I also expect industry leading pay, retirement, insurance, vacation, and scope, at the minimum, to make up for those warts.
Yes, you misread me. Look at what I said at the beginning. I stated that I would look at the whole package and not comment on whether Delta plus a nickel was enough or not. I look at claiming that we do night hub turns as a reason that we deserve more than another pilot group the same as a SWA pilot saying that they deserve more pay than a FedEx pilot because they fly 5-7 legs a day. You know the business when you take the job. Kind of like a shrimp boat captain complaining about the fish smell. I do believe that we deserve an industry leading contract and have said so multiple times. I would have elaborated a lot more, but I don't want to put any idea out about what is acceptable to me while we are in expedited negotiations. My reps and PM know what I think. That is enough for now.
I do agree with your second paragraph, but disagree with 318's statement that he came here knowing that we flew at night and that our contract was far behind other airlines in QOL areas. If it was so bad, then he made a bad decision. Or maybe he thinks that FedEx gets lower quality pilots than the legacies and he settled because he couldn't get hired there. Who knows. Are there items I would like to see fixed, sure. We'll see what a TA may or may not have in it. IMO, the Delta pay rates are a positive based on what AA and UAL rejected and what UPS currently approved. According to what I was told by PM, Delta's initial pay rate is close to or higher than AA's final pay rate in the deal they turned down.