Originally Posted by
captnate702
The pay/retirement will absolutely be there. MG knows that is the only way this place grows. the bigger question is whether we get any work rules?
I honestly don't what to believe with the work rules rumors i'm hearing. union sources say that they are only looking for industry standard work rules but then AR has talked about zero percent unstack for the last three years... so is the union looking for industry standard and management is being obtuse (most likely) or is AR digging in his heels on unstack which no airline in the industry has (unlikely imo - can't imagine he would be that naïve)?
from what i'm hearing, management's early offers in January/February were pathetic and laughably out of touch. since Alaska's TA, management has upped the rates/retirement from where they were but it is still less than alaska's. So i believe management will read the room and come to their senses with some realistic rates/retirement but the difference between management and union on work rules might as well be the pacific ocean.
side note: delta's unstack protects top 30% and that is highest in the industry that i've seen.
One key thing to note about the stacking/unstacking issue. The company has decided that NavBlue is the PBS system that they want to use (after bankrupting SmartPref). NavBlue only offers 100% or 0% unstacking. So you either give the company the ability to disregard 100% of your seniority/bid or you give them 0% ability to disregard your seniority/bid. For my vote, I'll take 0%.
The way other companies get around that limitation by mandating a staffing model. Our management has been adamantly opposed to having a staffing requirement (for obvious understaffing reasons).
One of two things needs to happen: (1) 100% unstacking or (2) a Staffing model.
Also, (if I understand it correctly) it's only line holders that would be 0%. I think the reserve lines are used to cover the flights (i.e. 100% unstacked). If that's the case, essentially we would be 10-30% unstacked (depending on reserve lines) if you counted all pilots in the bid.