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Old 12-08-2022 | 12:28 PM
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captnate702
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Originally Posted by akulahunter
One key thing to note about the stacking/unstacking issue. The company has decided that NavBlue is the PBS system that they want to use (after bankrupting SmartPref). NavBlue only offers 100% or 0% unstacking. So you either give the company the ability to disregard 100% of your seniority/bid or you give them 0% ability to disregard your seniority/bid. For my vote, I'll take 0%.

The way other companies get around that limitation by mandating a staffing model. Our management has been adamantly opposed to having a staffing requirement (for obvious understaffing reasons).

One of two things needs to happen: (1) 100% unstacking or (2) a Staffing model.

Also, (if I understand it correctly) it's only line holders that would be 0%. I think the reserve lines are used to cover the flights (i.e. 100% unstacked). If that's the case, essentially we would be 10-30% unstacked (depending on reserve lines) if you counted all pilots in the bid.
I'm calling a bluff on your post: How does staffing model prevent 100% of my seniority being disregarded? If 100% of my seniority can be disregarded in my bid then how does a staffing model prevent that from happening? Even with extra pilots, if they can just disregard my seniority then the staffing model is irrelevant? what am i missing?

Besides: Don't Jetblue, Spirit, Alaska, Frontier, and others all use Navblue for PBS? you're telling me all of those airlines' management can disregard 100% of the pilots' bid? Again, i'm calling BS. There has to be a reason no other airline has a 0% unstack and yet navblue is still a regularly used PBS. We can talk about industry standard all we want for work rules but i hope the union is not overplaying their hand on this, i just don't see how that helps anyone. No way MG will allow allegiant to be the first and only airline with a 0% unstack in a PBS - again Delta is the highest at 30%.

Either way, you seem to believe that AR is still on his 0% unstack position and that hasn't changed during negotiations? i honestly don't know because my sources either don't know or won't confirm what the gulf is for work rules they just say we its light year apart for PBS. Your post makes me think that the unstack/PBS stuff is the huge disconnect with work rules. if that is true then i was probably wrong about getting a contract by 2024 at the earliest - we won't get one until 2026 at the earliest.

Also: what is smartpref? how did we bankrupt it? i see something about crewing solutions and smart pref but that's it on the google machine.

last one: why isn't any of this stuff in the contract comparison? why doesn't the union put the other airlines staffing models into their contract comparison slide show? hearing AR try to explain this piece away on his recent video makes me more pessimistic, he strikes me as trying to reinvent the wheel or something with this unstack stuff. no other airline has it and to bring up united's staffing model just seems bizarre, like he's grasping at straws. we have enough to fix in this contract why draw a line in the sand that goes way beyond what any other airline has...

this whole is starting to smell like a d*ck measuring contest between AR and MG and the losers will be the pilots.

Last edited by captnate702; 12-08-2022 at 12:48 PM.
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