Originally Posted by Spartacusbob

Late reply-sorry.

1. New hire and yeah, my perception is that our union is embarrassing.

2. Tone down the comrade bull**** narrative. The guy who talked to our new hire class poorly represented the union and why a union was necessary. A pilot union makes sense from a safety aspect and a niche profession of extremely and expensively trained and maintained persons. Hit that, not the fellowship, fraternal, and comrade talk. I don’t need the emotional argument.

3. The union mentors have been great. Later, after probation, someone having my back if something goes south is going to feel comforting. For safety issues someone has to have our voice. To be clear, I believe a union is necessary in our profession.

4. The union folks conducting contract talks feels like a ****ing joke and worse it feels like a bunch of old crusty guys who are more concerned with fixing things up for them and no ****s given for the younger guys. “But you’ll have a better QOL in 10 years” doesn’t sound that great to me.

5. The lack of comm from previous committees seems to have driven this newer one to too actively seek information and it creates wasted time. At this point, ask for the moon, use the Delta contract as the benchmark, and find a place somewhere between the moon and the Delta contract.

6. Frankly, it looks like management is frustrated dealing with amateur hour. …and it does look like amateur hour.

Look, I’m a non voting/non paying member right now and I’m aware that I know little and have much to learn. Since the comment was made, I thought I’d tell you what my, admittedly, uninformed perception was right now of our union, their methods, the frustrating stagnation, the lack of direction, over communicating through worthless emails, and poor process management of this debacle.

All the other stuff the union does is great so far though. I really hope to see our folks get their feet under them and start running.