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Old 04-03-2008 | 07:44 PM
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Originally Posted by willflyforcash
Deep breaths... There ya go. Firstly, im not "basing everything upon monthly hourly guarantees?". I simply posted an interesting piece of information that I recently learned. Obviously im not saying that Mesa on the whole is better than Eagle, or I would be flying there and not here.

Take another sip/hit... relax... goood.. Secondly, Guarantee is a very important issue if you have very low time lines (like we have), or if you bid CDOs or if you are on reserve/choose to bid reserve.

Turn on some Enya, meditate... Thirdly, we have terrible dead head pay, no duty rig/trip rig, and no daily guarantee. BTW, There is no such thing as "Mandatory JR manning".... especially if you have a habit of taking a nice sip of cold beer just at crew scheduling calls.

My original post wasnt a campaign for guys to go to Mesa. Simply some interesting information. One of my criticisms towards them was always their low guarantee, until I was corrected one day.
Everyone has monthly guarantees that are somewhat close to each other, so they are not that important when it comes to the bigger picture. Also not everyone gets paid for CDO's they way you guys do. For instance, can you work 13 CDO's with just over 40 hours of block and get paid in the 85 ish hours range with a 75 hour monthly guarantee?

Next, there is such a thing as Mandatory JR manning, just ask any MAG employee and BTW, what you are proposing could and would cost you your job, especially if you are a reserve pilot (excluding days off). Also MAG is notorious for meeting their pilots and FA’s at the a/c in order to JR man them and they even go as far as to place it into the remarks section of their releases.

Last, your arguments are weak, you have yet to show any numbers but I’ll help you out. You guys make more in your intro years and your per diem is over 42 cents more.

Your numbers:
Originally Posted by willflyforcash
Mesa Guarantee: 70 hours
Eagle Guarantee: 72 hours

Mesa Bid periods per year: 13
Eagle Bid periods per year: 12

Mesa Guarantee per year: 13 X 70 = 910
Eagle Guarantee per year: 12 X 72 = 864
Eagle Guarantee of 864 X 24 = $20,736 then add your $1.70 per Diem to it.

Mesa Guarantee of 910 X 21 (RJ) = $20,020 then add their $1.28 per Diem

Mesa Guarantee of 910 X 19 (Props) = $17,290 then add their $1.28 per Diem

Your RJ guys still make more, thousands more in the end!

http://airlinepilotcentral.com/airli...can_eagle.html
http://airlinepilotcentral.com/airli...-lcc/mesa.html

Last edited by JetJock16; 04-03-2008 at 08:05 PM. Reason: sp
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