Originally Posted by
akulahunter
I have never called you any name. I thought we were having a logical back-and-forth discourse about an issue that neither of us is an expert on. Maybe I was wrong.
See below for why i responded the way i did. I wasn't the one that started talking about unstacking and PBS. I was asking questions about AR's video. I only brought it up here and else where after AR went on about it in his video.
Originally Posted by
akulahunter
Yes, must-work days would go away with a real PBS. I'm not sure why Nate is caught up on this stacking issue, I guess there's nothing else to complain about. It's not like the company has offered us industry-standard everything (or basically anything). If stacking/unstacking was all that was left, it might be a different story. However, we're still a Grand Canyon apart and there are a dozen things the pilots DO want that the company is refusing to give, so stacking right now is a moot point.
Nate, if you are so concerned why don't you tell everyone here how delta does it? You seem to be an expert. Please enlighten us. I would much rather AR spend his time trying to get my LTD and min day than worrying about your stacking question.
Also, our current CBA doesn't allow unstacking, I'm curious as to why you would want to give that up to the company in this environment.
My original concern was that unstacking/stacking was going to be the last thing left and it was going to turn into a d*ck measuring contest between AR and MG and we the pilots would lose. I hope i am wrong. that would be terrible for the pilot group. But AR's video and what i'm hearing is that unstack is still hard impasse. If that is true then then we will be the losers. We will never be released if we demand something nobody in the industry has and alternatively if AR digs in his heels then we'll be stuck watching videos til 2026 at least.
Even the union has said that the company keeps upping their retirement/rates each time they send section 3 and 4. Per union whispers, MG is offering DC for retirement (15%), the rates started with Suncountry plus, but are now closer to Alaska with a ULCC discount. That is not going to get it done, but that's a lot of movement from MG in less than 6 months because the market is going to determine the rates. No ULCC discount. Per union whispers MG has stopped telling the union that allegiant gets a discount because we are a ULCC. my crystal ball (and some of this optimistic thinking) is that at some point MG will be forced to pay us, the market is gonna force him to and MG is gonna realize that is the only way this thing gets voted in.
The work rules will have to be standardized with the industry. no more moving raps all over the place and jerking reserves down in FL. even though a lot of reserves have a good gig, the reserves in FL get screwed way way way too often and that has to be fixed. we also need the ability for a pilot to sit long call, so stupid that scheduling doesn't use that today. we should demand that at least some reserves are long call, that could make life a whole lot better for reserves in FL and other big bases (IWA/LAS).
A lot of the other work rules for line holders aren't that different from other carriers on paper. crew services just ignores the work rules that we have, but those work rules are industry standard (extensions, reassignments, open time, trip trades, etc. are all pretty standard crew services just ignores them - not sure we need "better" work rules we just need a lot of our current work rules to be followed).
Just my two cents...