Originally Posted by pinseeker

Why do some try to make this a mil vs civ thing. There are plusses and minuses to both. Comparing going on strike to being shot at? Yeah, that's a fair comparison. I could list the different "bad" behaviors I have seen and whether the pilot was mil or civ, and the list would probably be pretty even. So, let's not play that game.

IME, I see a lot of the same behavior from both groups, not one more than the other. Maybe it starts during your 14+ months of probation. I have seen countless new hires, both mil and civ, who are afraid to call in fatigued, or tell CRS that what they are trying to do to them violates the contract, or even worse, the FAR's. They say they just want to keep their head low so they don't get fired. IMO, we would be better served if we got rid of probation, or, all new hires were immediately union members who are afforded the same protections on day 1 as a pilot who has been here 25 or more years.