Originally Posted by notthesame

Are you insinuating domestic hires are unqualified? Or that only overseas pilots are the only qualified pilots available?

Or that the only qualified hires we can get are from overseas and come on a non-immigrant visa that chain them to a specific company, but allow endless renewal because qualified domestic pilots can goto any US airline and therefor earn a market based wage that is significantly higher than what they would earn at Atlas?

We've happily given away our only leverage. Don't try to frame this as xenophobia because it's clearly not. They are reaching into foreign labor pools to avoid attrition and thus AVOIDING PAYING A MARKET BASED WAGE. There is a reason that EVERY other airline union (besides ours) lobbies against labor outsourcing. Because it undermines the pilot group (including the E3 hires already on property).

Whats going to happen when the furlough comes and US pilots are on the streets, but our active seniority list is dotted with pilots on non-immigrant visas?

Calling it xenophobia is a very easy way to dismiss what I'm saying. How about debate on the merits of this purely financial issue?