Originally Posted by
Koalatree
Just shaking my head at this. "Whether it's 2023 or 2024, we're gonna get close". This sums up the problem here with this group settling. We've gone from the average up will save us, to the average up in 2023 is not a big deal to the average up in 2024 is OK. Who cares about another whole year being further behind by 15-20%. If that attitude isn't bad enough, it's not being educated on exactly how it works out after our 2nd snap up. Yes, in 9/2024, we'll snap up. But that's our last snap up. We'll go to DAL DOS +1, UAL +1 etc....For a few months. Long time to wait to be on average for it to then slip away. If what most people see as happening occurs in DAL/UAL/SWA getting new contracts in the next 6 months, months after that 9/2024 snap, we fall further behind as DAL/UAL/SWA go into DOS +2 rates and DOS +3 rates. As the company men love to say, we'll be up for new negotiations at that time. Ironically, these are the same guys that used the dreaded upcoming "recession" to lock in the rates that obviously were way below market now. One has to ask, which one is it, are we going into a recession or are we going to be on a great bargaining platform in 2024 to get further improvements after falling so far behind again on this current cycle
Get off your arm-chair quarterbacking, high horse there now sonny. Don't try to take what I wrote out of context by quoting only one sentence (actually, only a part of the sentence), vs. taking the time to understand my point in its entirety, and then start pontificating about the error of the ways of "the 82" with your sanctimonious self.
I guarantee you, most AS pilots knew exactly what the risk vs. reward were of a YES vs. NO vote, and at the end of the day decided to hedge their bets with the decision that among other things, gets them out from under the dog sheet of a contract they had, as well as most importantly, got the company to acknowledge that our peers for comparison purposes will now include DL, UA, and AA.
Rome was not built in a day..... Big picture.