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Old 12-31-2022 | 08:15 AM
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Originally Posted by Tranquility
Not all of us want to be instructors to make decent bank…. That said, I am grateful those punks will finally have to bid their own seniority and not be able to cherry-pick trips…
That's all fine and good but it also unclogs the training pipeline. The company doesn't care about attrition because they can just keep pumping in lower cost 1st year guys to replace them IF they can unclog the pipeline. Don't get me wrong, while I like the changes you highlighted it also give the company a HUGE win.

See below for more on the topic.

Originally Posted by CincoDeMayo
This was all made clear during the road shows.

Union said they want 72 hours and first year pay for training.

Company said “fine, that’s on your side of the table, so it’s a cost the union incurs.”

NC said “child please”

Company said “we don’t have problems attracting pilots, regardless of APC lore, we have issues retaining pilots”

NC says “you do you, boo, but we are already getting hit with $90m over 2 years in just the first year pay increase, we are not subtracting from other areas to add”

The company said they believe this will get enough pilots to staff the 500 they need next year, the met their hiring needs this year and plan to hire over 1000 to meet their 500 for next year.

Why line pilots seem more concerned with the number of apps on file when we don’t even see the stack, and they do, I just still don’t get it.

But feel free to vote no if you think the company will come back and offer more for training while not sticking with the cost being carried by the pilot side of the deal. That’s a fools errand for me.


Something else to ponder;

Even IF the company comes back and wants to talk. And even IF we get a new deal and it’s approved for vote, road shows etc, you have to ask if you think the new TA2 rates
will be more than TA1 DOS+1 rates. Because that’s pretty much how the timeline would be close to ending up.
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