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Old 12-31-2022 | 09:49 AM
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Originally Posted by groundlooper
while taking ownership over your own accommodations is important(really shouldn’t be at a major airline or any airline for that matter when at work) , admonishing a NEW HIRE because they didn’t know all the resources at their disposal and expecting them to fend for themselves in NEW HIRE training frankly makes us look bad. Knowing your contract is essential for any pilot; expecting a new hire to fend for themself in the way you’re suggesting is truly ridiculous.

Why don’t you put on your big boy pants and hold your employer accountable rather than being condescending to a new hire? That might be a better strategy than criticizing NEW HIRES for not knowing every resource available in the book they got 2 weeks ago.

I’m sorry this happened to you, but it is par for the course as far pilots having to deal with more than they should have due to the company cheaping out in every way they can.

Frontier is NOT the big leagues, despite how you might delude yourself. The “BIG LEAGUE” pilots don’t have to deal with this, aside from occasional IROPS and certainly not in new hire training. The fact you call Frontier the “Big Leagues” speaks volumes about yourself

My “minor league” regional had very few hotel issues compared to here, so maybe you’re not babe ruth like you think
Stop defending this. Just stop. You're not doing yourself any favors.

You mean to tell me:
When you checked in the front desk didn't tell you how many days the company has you checked in for? No?
You didn't bother to ask how many days you were checked in for? No?
The company didn't tell you who schedules travel/hotel accommodations in training if there's any issues? No.
You didn't think to inquire about any of your travel plans? No.

I don't believe you.

I understand you might absolutely hate this company (which is why in the greatest hiring environment in history you choose not to leave). But this does nobody any good. You're getting ready to fly 200K LB aircraft with 240 people on board. This person might even be your FO. You're going to be responsible for all sorts of things including:
-Being in the right place, at the right time, in the right uniform
-Closing the door on time
-Fuel management
-117 requirements
-deicing
-MELs
-paperwork
-blah, blah, blah


You mean to tell me your hotel reservation, which you don't even pay for, is not even partly your responsibility to CHECK?
You know what you're right... this company is f&cked. If you can't even tell a newhire to check a reservation, we're done. Close shop.
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