Originally Posted by Ravenwing

This thread is proving that Envoy is still attracting more DECs than any other airline, and more are on the fence thinking about jumping in. Envoy has a good training department, good aircraft, good work rules, longevity matching, and good pay, especially for those planning to stay and cash in on the bonuses. Many seem to be coming from outside of 121, either due to retirement, part 135 or 91 gigs, career changes, or military, and some are still coming from less desirable regionals.

I think Envoy has a good strategy, training as many pilots as captains as possible. They won’t waste money upgrading pilots after less than a year, and if they get desperate, they can force upgrade the FO bidding DECs early. It appears that Envoy is hurting less for captains than other regionals because they were among the first to raise pay and prioritize those with 121 time or an equivalent. It might hurt them later, but they are focused on the current crisis.

For those who keep asking will they be able to get a base, vacancy bids are usually run at the end of every quarter. I would guess that movement within each base will depend on attrition, upgrades, displacements from the E145, and potential transfers to PHX when that base opens. The 10/31 Indoc class had 3 ORD E175 FOs and the rest got DFW E175 CA or FO according to the class drop thread. The next few classes will probably be similar until a new vacancy is run. Recruiters are likely to tell you what you want to hear, but they can’t predict accurately without knowing whether a recession is finally going to slow down the business or how many pilots will still leave for greener pastures or how many FOs will finally reach 1,000 hours and get upgraded. We live in unprecedented times.