Originally Posted by Desdi

Flew heavies for a few years and what you speak of regarding green dot below 10k was fairly typical on longer flights beyond around 12 hours in the triple 7 with a full boat. Min maneuvering clean speed (Boeing speak for green dot) was somewhere between 250-260, that’s when you would ask for high speed climb, bug 5 knots above that if that’s what makes you feel comfortable and go about your merry way. And yes our initial altitude would indeed be in the low 30s. Just a fact of flying a longer range heavier airliner….. you are a flying gas can. FOM will no doubt have to be “clarified”!