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Old 01-21-2023 | 06:59 AM
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Originally Posted by tennisguru
Except depending on how you look at it we actually are getting retro. Retro on a 4% raise in 2020, 0% in 2021 (you know, during the worst economic environment in aviation history), then a 9.6% raise in 2022 (compounded takes it to 14%), then 3.5% in 2023 takes it to 18%. Gee, that sure looks like compounding retro to me.

Now is it the same as if we’d signed a deal in 2020 for 8/5/4, well no of course not. The biggest gripe I have about the “one time payment” is that it’s not pensionable (so many will argue it’s not “true” retro. In my situation that’d be another ~7k in my 401k. A bummer yes but not something I’d torpedo the whole contract for. Also, I’ll be making up a decent amount of that shortfall since the payment will count towards profit sharing for the year, so potentially another 10%+ on the money plus next year we’ll get 17% DC on profit sharing.
This is exactly the point. It's not like we aren't getting ANY retro. We are getting MOSTLY retro. I'm not willing to send this back for a year JUST to get a few percent retro and a few percent pay. If, after going to a roadshow and reading all the material, the rest of this is full of holes, the lack of full retro could be one of the nails. But getting 90% retro, in itself, isn't a deal breaker.