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Old 01-22-2023, 09:24 AM
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Cruz5350
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Originally Posted by Carebear
Why do you think 6000 FOs senior to him are bypassing upgrade? Why do you think 6000 FOs are bypassing upgrade at United? These 1 year captains are gonna upgrade and be on reserve for a loooong time as people retire and FOs waiting to hold lines upgrade on top of these newhire captains, who will be sitting reserve for 5-6 years.

12th year 737 UA captain made 13% more money this year than he did as a 787 FO last year but worked 71 more days than he did last year. Narrowbody domestic flying sucks anywhere you slice it. $330 at Alaska won’t have to wait till September 2024. It’ll be here in the fall.
United’s reserve policy can convert you to go sit field standby at the airport and their global reserve if you’re a commuter has the potential to impact your QOL quite a bit as I’ve been told with no first hand experience myself, but that’s what drives folks to avoid upgrade over there. At Delta our reserve rules that we’ll get are quite a bit different in fact as it already stands a lot of folks choose reserve over a line so explain that to me? Never happened at Alaska unless you couldn’t hold a particular day off or holiday and reserve or OF was your only
option. It also isn’t going to take 5-6 years to hold a line should you want it since it already doesn’t take that long, now it might be that long to get weekends and holidays coupled with summer vacations but that’s just the way it goes, doesn’t change the fact that there’s 1yr CA’s elsewhere making more than topped out service captains at AS. You also won’t see a lot of the senior FO’s especially WB switch to the left seat because the pay rates now are incredibly good coupled with work rules that essentially bring you within a stones throw of what you’d make as a CA anyways. Time will tell on how the new reserve rules work out at DL but I’m going to venture a guess that reserve will trend more senior. Point is there’s options that just don’t exist at AS that the big 3 have and AS should be paying more to keep and retain folks. Show the math on that $330 btw…
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