Originally Posted by akulahunter

You said this multiple times. Do you mind saying who told you that? Not one person I spoke to on the NC or E Board (Granted I have not spoken to 100% of the E Board) has said that Day Trips are a line in the sand (to be fair they haven't even said that having ANY % of day trips are a line in the sand). What I have heard is that they will not let the company ignore both scenarios. Either:

1. The company agrees to a minimum % of day trips
2. The company agrees to a TAFB, overrides, and hotel language

So far the company refuses to do either of those things, which is unacceptable.

For those asking how that would be paid out (breaking the day trip %), one way is to do graduated pay overrides for breaking the percentages. (i.e. 1%-5% violation pays a 10% override to all pilots, 6%-10% violation pays a 20% override, >10% violation pays a 30% override to the entire group). Black and white, easy to defend and payout, etc.

I think the scheduling arbitration is an apples-to-oranges comparison. The union has won multiple arbitrations and the company keeps suing and appealing the decisions. The union just won the hearing saying that the arbitration can move forward and will now be heard for the umpteenth time, and the union will win again. Of course, the company needs another six months to prepare for the arbitration that has been going on for years at this point. They know they will lose and lose big at the end of the process. They are just delaying the inevitable and hoping they can gain some way to leverage the new CBA into making all the arbitrations go away.