This is not directed to only Sunvox or SalingFun.. but they seem pretty knowledgeable of our/their respective PS.
So, a couple of simple questions-
IF both companies reported 5Billion in Profit for FY23 (NOTHING to do with Delta's current TA, or our potential TA).
1) What would the PS be for their respective pilot groups? Ie.. how much in the pilot pot?
b) based on that amount, and the number of eligible pilots.. what would be the "expected" PS Percentage.
2) IF two pilots both made 200k in FY22. Based on what I (and others are reading-)
The UAL pilot would be getting 200ooo x .016787= $3357.40 as Profit sharing
The Delta pilot would be getting 200ooo x .05023= $10046.
However, (and correct me if I am wrong)- $10046 x 16% BFund = another $1607.36 for a total of $11653.36.
THAT is a significant difference.
If it all comes down to a few words, ie- Pretax PROFIT up to/over $2.5B vs. Pretax PROFIT up to/over 6.9% margin
A set amount vs a set percentage.
Back to another question-
Two pilots will be getting 1.6787% PS for their FY22 amount.
UAL pilot to get $3357.40
Delta pilot to get $3357.40 + $537.18 BFund = $3894.58
If the above is correct, we (UAL Pilot Group) can not say [With a Straight Face] that our two plans are essentially the same.
And there is nothing wrong with plans being different.. but lets just acknowledge it.
We can argue the value of PS and IF it should or shouldn't be in a UPA/PWA. It seems some pilot groups are going away from it while others are making it more solid.
Personally I like the idea of being rewarded in making our company profitable. Just always felt that a BFund contribution should also be included.
BTW- on our PS page it mentioned that the amount to be distributed to eligible employees is nearly $133million. I was alittle surprised by that low amount. Expected almost double that.
Motch