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C17B74
True, good addition to be very specific. Don’t believe zerozero had any intent to start an argument so good clarification to his main point. Nothing argued regarding the “take away”, but like you said people need to understand that anything and a lot more than you might be aware of can be negotiated away. Just take a glimpse at FedEx 2015 contract and what they keep mentioning on their informational threads, wasn’t pretty it seems.
*On a somewhat parallel theme which may have been answered before awhile back: Why did our start time change to 0700z vs midnight z? Must be benefitting someone out there. Thought it was the newbies being ANC based on the 74 who lived CONUS/lower 48 closer to the East Coast, but several I caught up with answered “not really”…
**Don’t recall the pilot group being asked or a questionnaire proposing this, but I could have missed it somewhere no doubt. LOAs like Elevation mentioned are another animal.
Yes, an LOA does not mean they "take it away", it means it is negotiated and then agreed upon. To me, "take away" means someone just comes in and says hey, no more gateway. That's not possible. But if someone comes in and says hey here's a million dollars and no more gateway, that is possible. I just can't see that getting any traction from the pilot group.
re. your second question about the definition in Article 2 about "Day", it was listed as "Agreed" in the JCBA proposal so it wasn't awarded by the arbitrator. I don't know what the logic behind it is.