A well thought out and reasoned response. Careful I think we are setting a new precedent on APC. We might get banned for lowering the level of controversy here

Now, in the words of one of my favorite movie characters: "If I may, I will address some of the accusations you have laid before me . . ."


The attempted poll: I like polls not because I want to "confirm (my) belief", but simply and quite honestly I find learning what the APC hive mind is leaning towards to be most interesting. At times the responses to a poll have been surprising. I goofed and didn't set it up properly because I was in between work flights and on an iPad.

The Delta Profit Sharing: I was told by a senior ALPA person whom I respect that the 16% is not added on, and my posts reflected that information up to the moment I was presented with other evidence. Now, keep in mind that the evidence to the contrary comes from an anonymous individual poster here on APC and does not clearly state the precise opposite of what I was told, but rather merely implies such. Therefore, I admit it appears I was misinformed, but perhaps not. If I get further evidence in the future, either way, I promise to share what I have found. My intent is not to be right. My intent is to learn the facts to be better informed, and my posts merely reflected the best information I had to date.

Lastly, the crux of the matter. Yes, I 100% feel if we are offered a Delta like or even a Delta -1 deal we should have a vote and not have the MEC push the negotiations out indefinitely. However . . . and my bad for not making this clearer in my posts . . . we most definitely should ASK for Delta + a bunch, but I stand by my thought process and earlier comment that IF the company offer comes in Delta equal or even Delta minus then UAL pilots need to understand just how much each month of added negotiation is costing them personally. I am not certain that this concept is fully understood. Furthermore I believe that if the negotiations went all the way to a final conclusion in front of the NMB then we would most definitely NOT come out ahead, but this opinion clearly is not shared by all. I stand by my advice with a new caveat: Ask for Delta +10 but don't be surprised if the company offers Delta -1 and don't be too quick to say "NO" if that happens.

Regardless, thank you for the measured response. It was most appreciated, and I hope my explanations help make my views on our contract a little less "dumb".