Originally Posted by
Podrick
Gonna have to disagree with you on that, It addresses just about everything you mentioned..
Originally Posted by
FangsF15
The TA disincentivizes the company from doing all those things, through various means. Or, outright prohibits it.
Originally Posted by
Podrick
So you admit it’s addressed, you just don’t like how it’s being addressed. Which is totally fine, but two completely different things. Just pointing that out for those on the outside looking in, since this is a thread for new hires.
Ok, so then nothing I said in my original post is wrong.
As I said...at Delta on a narrow body fleet, it's a lot of max duty days, ridiculously long outstation sits (no crew lounge to rest/relax) and min rest overnights. With the new TA, you may get a few extra dollars out of it compared to what we get now, but it will STILL be max duty days, ridiculously long outstation sits, and min rest overnights.
Back when Delta pilots were out picketing, most of those signs said "fatiguing schedules", "quality of life", etc. When I hear pilots complain, it's about scheduling, quality of life, so many reroutes, awful trips. The company comes along and basically says "look, we're going to continue to do those things and run the airline this way, but here's a bit more cash when we do"...did they really address it?
It's amazing that pilots at any airline still fall for the "having to pay us a little more money will disincentivize the company from doing those things" argument. How backed up is the union right now going through all the ACE reports and grievances from the company violating the contract because having to pay out a little money later is worth the benefit they get from violating today? Having to pay more doesn't disincentivize them from any of that stuff because it still allows them to run the airline with less pilots than they ACTUALLY need.
The 220 is an outlier in that we are overstaffed. I've seen the reserve grids on the 737 and a320 fleets for most bases. Every single day of the month is below the required staffing. That means no personal drops. No usage of payback days to drop trips, no ability to easily move things around. Money is great, don't get me wrong. But there's going to come a day for many pilots when they realize that having scheduling flexibility and quality of life matters more than money.
I'm not sure why you guys are so uptight about this...I clearly expressed that Delta is still significantly better than Alaska. But there are plenty of things that aren't great here. I'm sorry if the idea that Delta isn't ThE MoSt PeRfEcT Air Line offends you.