Originally Posted by
tcco94
I wasn’t saying commute to LAX, I was purely saying if you want ER those are the only 2 bases with half the bid packet, at least, of good rotations. ATL 320 and 73N do have short smaller city layovers but also longer layovers than you will see doing the jumps in and out of Florida or the surrounding states. I’d much rather have 18 hours in MEM than 12 hours in FLL.
also, telling new hires you will occasionally get europes out of ATL ER is not factual. Some of the ER SA was even outsourced to our other intl fleets. Caribbean turns and Latin America turns, no thanks.
so sure the overall package is a “higher ceiling” but that’s not helpful for a new hire. That gives them false hope that they rough it out for that ceiling when in reality it would take years to maybe see a Paris (until that is removed off ER) or EDI once if they can pick it up off swap board.
All advice I guess should be taken with a grain of salt, we are all different. But I would not fly the ER in ATL, and I thankfully have seniority to avoid ATL ER flying in my bid packet for my said reasons.
Never said you did commute. I'm referring to the hypothetical "new hire" if their goal was ATL, hence the ER to 73/Bus comparison.
As far as layover times, nearly every trip in open time right now has at least one 15/16/17/18 hour layover, many with multiple. I see one trip in the next serval days that has two 12 hour layovers...but it's easily commutable on both ends (Noon report, 1800 release). So I'm not exactly sure where you're getting your data.
Frankly, you are flat out wrong on the Europe stuff. You most certainly can get some Europe flying. My last 3 ocean crossings have been with 12.5K and higher seniority numbers. Including one who was on their 2nd Europe trip of the month with a 14K seniority #. Does it require some time on the swap board or getting lucky while on reserve? Yes. It won't be the norm starting out. Saying it's not "factual" is completely incorrect.
The ER flying to LIM is going to the 350, mainly to free up the jets for more Europe flying starting next month. (plus we have those terrible LATAM 350s without true Delta One or wifi and they have to fly somewhere). The GIG flying is seasonal and is shutting down next month (765 is taking it for the last few weeks).
Agreed, we are all different. Different strokes for different folks.
I mean this without malice, but I don't think you have a good pulse on the flying in ATL. Some of it is true, but I'd suggest sticking to your lane (LAX), especially when giving advice to new hires.