Originally Posted by
AerChungus
New rules, simplified:
If you were not already in Aviate, you need to have 1600 PIC. Once you hit your hours, you flow within 4 months.
If you're already in Aviate or your hire date at a UAX carrier is before 3/1/23, you can use part of the old terms, which is 1500 UAX time, of which 500 is PIC. The other way of qualifying via 2000 hours of SIC (not upgrading) is no longer valid unless you were due to flow in the next 3 months.
Allowed no more than 1 121/135 training failure within the preceding 5 years. Failure during captain upgrade does not count. UAX carriers had issues with FOs not upgrading because they didn't want to risk a training failure and between the convenience of picking your own schedule as a senior FO and not having to sit reserve for a while, it was probably a wash between flowing with 2000 SIC and upgrading to do 500 PIC.
If you get invited to Aviate and turn it down, you're permanently ineligible. If you leave Aviate, you're not eligible to apply to United for 12 months.
The three biggest takeaways IMO are these:
Incentivizes DECs because they would flow faster (1600 hours and out, rather than having to wait their turn as every FO senior to them flows first like the AA and DL flows)
Forces senior FOs to upgrade
Provides a more concrete flow time estimate because it's no longer "get your hours and we will call you when it's your turn"
Good info - appreciate it.
What about the paragraph regarding applying to United outside of Aviate (off the street) when you're enrolled in Aviate? Am I correct that someone can apply to United via normal website application, who is already in Aviate, as long as they leave Aviate if offered/scheduled a United interview? If you're offered an interview, obviously the 12 month wait would not apply. Not sure if this is part of the Aviate update or I never looked closely enough at the program documentation...