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Old 04-11-2023 | 05:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Otterbox
Apparently they’ve been promised maxed out 90hrs/month 320 Captains pay in the new contract…
While I don't know what the end state contract will be, and no one does, this statement is could be misconstrued.

Yes, all instructors are pay protected at 90 hrs/month.
Yes, the TUMI TA moved the bar from a cap at 9th year WB FO to 12 year Airbus blended CA.
No, this does not "Max" out anyone in TK, if you are a 2nd year United pilot, then if you can hold Airbus CA(which at this point in time is everyone), you will be paid "2nd year Airbus blended CA" in the TUMI TA.
Also realize that while TK work is great from a QOL standpoint of "one day" events, it's not a good commuter job (even though a minority of instructors commute), and we all work hybrid line/reserve schedules that include 0400 and 2000 events. So you can be on reserve one day and a normal event the next throughout your monthly schedule. Everyone only has 13 days off in a month without vacation. We get 2.5-3 fly days a month depending on NB/WB.

This post is not meant to diminish the good deal of being a TK instructor, just meant to clear up any confusion of the pay that was proposed in the TUMI for TK guys.

Another item I wanted to mention on this subject...this is one of the items at this point in time that we have "leverage" during this negotiation. The company knows that they have 900+ seniority list pilots that could choose to leave TK tomorrow and they would have to fill those positions at immense cost and this would kill any attempt at United Next. At this point in time, they don't want instructors to leave.

This allowed Delta to improve their Contract for their seniority list instructors (some of DLs gains are better than our current UPA)
If you read recently about AAs new contract negotiations, it appears they have made gains on their Contract with regards to their seniority list instructors as well.

At this point in time, you can make more as an LCA/instructor at some of our regional partners. This is a fact. This is an "anomaly" for sure, but it's leverage and costs the company more money to train new instructors at this point in time than it does to just pay them "up to" 12th year airbus CA pay.

That being said, at this time everyone at TK is still capped at 9th year WB FO. So a 2nd year pilot at United is getting paid 2nd year WB pay, and a 12+ year pilot at United is getting paid 9th year FO WB pay.
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