From a friend:

Just got out of the Scott Kirby TK Q&A. The tone was clearly disapproval from the pilot group. Basically group he presented too was 60% NH, 20% instructors&pilots, 20% non pilot TK staff. The 20% instructors & pilots were the most vocal.

Kirby's take - company proposal is worth more than DL etc etc - said Mediation may be the next or only step.- only 40 pilots really took the upgrade (rest were SUPs or lateral) in the last vacancy. Said the CA vacancies may lead to growth problems. Contract only way he sees fixing it.- United is not largest in Pacific and Atlantic

ALPA Reps, Instructors & Pilots - pointed out company offer it’s not a 1:1 with DL in terms of QOL or total value - Denver FO rep spoke out, saying he’s personally at negotiations (unlike Kirby), company does not appear as willing to work for a good agreement as Kirby claims. (Kirby kinda back tracked on this, telling the pilot group to read ALPAs latest comm, and ask themselves if they want what’s on the table).

Instructors spoke out about how Kirby is losing morale, and trust from the pilot group (including the evaluators and PIs) as a whole as this contract drags out. It’s overdue.

From my perspective, there really was no other way to interpret it other than in this Q&A Kirby was on the spot. The pilot group was unified in their disappointment. It doesn’t appear we are very close on a deal.