Originally Posted by
CincoDeMayo
X and Y pay 200%
X list is only for your base and you can refuse the trip when offered
Y list is for any location Spirit currently has service, you can report in 3 hours or less, and you can not refuse an assignment. Basically if you answer the phone on a Y list, you’re going. That has caused issues with pilots being assigned Y list trips for a longer duration than what they showed available for when signing up for Y list trips
The X list pilot gets any and all DH pay since the trips start and end at their domicile
The Y list trip is different. If you’re a MCO pilot and Y list for TPA, your trip will show a virtual DH to start showing MCO-TPA (for crew tracking) and 0 credit. The end of a trip will have a DH or operational trip back to MCO, in which the pilot is paid for. So the pilot has the option to take the DH back to MCO and get back to TPA on their own or self release the leg before and JS back to TPA.
Y list trips can be productive because you’ll see a lot of 1 leg, overnight, and DH back the next day to base. So the pilot does the 1 leg, gets released, and catches the next flight home, and it’s 20 hours minimum for a day of work.
Hmm seems like your X list is superior to our “in base VDA” since you can bypass. But your Y list is inferior to our “out of base VDA” because of the lack of virtual DH credit. Structurally those trips end up being similar but with ours we are virtually credited from our base to the base where the pairing is built out of, the pairing credit, then credit for a virtual DH back to base. So if you VDA in MCO and you are based in JFK, you get called for MCO-BDL overnight with a DH back to MCO the next day (10 hrs for the pairing) , add 2.5 each way of virtual DH credit to/frm JFK/MCO at 200% that would be 30 hrs for the one leg of work.