Originally Posted by NobodyLikesMe

All fair points you make. I like conversations like this. I didn't mean to insult your experience by asking that question either, just merely trying to gauge whether or not you've been exposed to this playbook before. That being said, what makes you think that, despite never having announced an official ceding flying to them, they aren't simply holding this close to their chest as a means of retaliation a la AMR and Eagle/Envoy negotiations. AMR ceded Eagle flying and metal to TSA, which had notoriously **** poor operational control and reliability, just to essentially tighten the noose around the pilot group to show them they were willing to play ball too. You know what I mean? I understand your point you make. I realize it will not be an overnight thing should they decide to pursue this path, but certainly we cannot rule out this possibility? I realize this is all part of the game. I'm really not afraid. I couldn't be more excited because this is the one time where emails don't do **** and rubber meets road.

I would be interested to see how fast they could churn out those 738 conversions using 2 or 3 facilities.

I definitely think it is all worth the fight, but a fight it will be which is why my eyes are always on orders like these during times of economic/corporate fiscal austerity. If they're already trimming the fat by closing the FDA, why not trim even more and get rid of the Europe DH'ing and let these guys do it especially if we don't like what the company has to offer.

Couldn't agree with you more on your last statement about monetary policy and economic outlook, but it is my opinion that they've been specifically stalling anyways to bring us to this threshold. Hard to make an argument for concessions during good times. Easier when you sit at the precipice of economic uncertainty and you cutoff the hiring flow. I'd like to qualify all of this by saying I know absolutely nothing though . We shall see.