Originally Posted by
Hedley
I did the ORCA training on the 737 and to call it weak is an understatement. In all fairness, I was coming off of the 777 and was used to oceanic flying, so the instructor could have been just skimming through the program. Either way, it’s more of a familiarization than actual training. I’ve deliberately avoided the pacific qual as a captain because the trips usually involve a red eye leg (and I don’t want to deal with oceanic flying without CPDLC, WiFi, ACARS, and SATCOM), but it’s not uncommon to go down to the islands with a FO who has no clue how to do the cockpit preps, run a master flight plan, tune HF radios, or make position reports. If we’re going to operate in airspace with different procedures, there should be more training involved and currency requirements.
They probably weren't skimming through it. Our ORCA training was an LAX-HNL leg run at 5x speed. It wouldn't surprise me if the instructor hadn't actually flown a real ORCA leg themselves.
Fortunately, most captains do a good job of teaching ORCA on the line, regardless of whether it's their jobs to do so.