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Old 04-17-2023 | 02:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Globemaster2827
Some of it was ok I guess but he's telling people that this is so they can "furlough" which won't happen here. 4a2c could happen but that'd require much more contraction than is forecast. It is possible that the 757 could drive the system average metrics down over time but they'd have to train this out first and go through the 4a2c process while losing airplanes and cancelling orders for new ones.

My guess is that we start hiring again next March or April after we see 200-300 guys leave in January and 200 people retire.
too optimistic. We were some 400-600 overmanned last Fall before DRIVE was even thought of. Now CO has signaled very loudly that we will need far less pilots in future. This bid is only first step in that - it will be incremental. The ratios are changing because they want to drive the SAM down and enter 4a2b then c then furlough if needed. There aren’t MORE ocean crossings requiring more RFOs - they have already said PAC crossings will DECREASE by 30%. Can’t get to where they want to be in one swoop.

if you are junior and have ability to at least take a hard look elsewhere you’d be crazy not to do it - even with pax carriers history of furloughs and bankruptcy. Anyone who has been here for awhile and not looking through rose colored glasses realizes how different FedEx wants to take things.

we won’t be hiring for several years at least.
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