Originally Posted by
Noisecanceller
Yes we lost an arbitration on this. The spirit (no pun intended) of the Y list is to get flights out and the arbitrator ruled that even though you are afforded up to 3 hours they don’t have to award it to you if the guy behind you can get there in an hour and that’s what they need.
Also at spirit anything that gets put on your schedule gets paid. As soon as something gets placed on mine I screen shot. On more than a couple occasions I have been awarded a Y list 200% trip and then scheduling finds another option that gets the flight out faster than what I told them I could make it in. That means I’m getting released and paid. Always screenshot.
As a sidebar to your car being stuck places that aren’t your domicile when using Y list in outstations: yes it’s often a possibility and does happen. I have left my car in outstations for days and sometimes weeks racking up parking charges after accepting Y list trips and the trips operates back to my domicile where I also happen to live. Small inconvenience and cost imo at captain pay at 200%. For some people it’s not worth the hassle and they choose not to Y list.
Also of note for the X and Y list is you will be skipped legally on either list if you have a conflict with what they are trying to cover.
Non domicile cities that have more than a couple flights and few other pilots living there can be small goldmines for those that do. Large domiciles with lots of local pilots not so much. FLL is a good example. Most of the pilots list on both the X and Y list so once you take one trip it’s unlikely you’ll see another one in FLL as you’ll cycle down the list. Large domiciles with not so many pilots living extremely close (Mco/las) tend to have a good amount of premium for those willing. Las because there are a lot of commuters and the flying sucks. Mco because the weather sucks and while most pilots live driving distance most don’t live in Mco proper and are often less willing to come fly for premium if they have to get off the couch and make a 2-3hr drive.
Vegas is an XY goldmine here for sure. Airports like LAX, BWI, PHL, EWR, etc. can get plenty of Y list action as well
I hope the general spirit of our XY/JRM rules stick around after the merger