Originally Posted by
MelT
This is true in an expansion type bid. ALL of our bids now (due to C2015) can be a displacement bid. 23-01 is the prime example. You CAN and some WILL be displaced from the seats they had been awarded in previous bids. That is the point of a displacement bid.
If you think you will be able to just defer your displacement "award" or "assignment" you may be very surprised. The company has a history of training people out of contractual order and there is nothing we can do about it. Oh, they will pay you for the difference (if there is any), but they can and will decide who and how many from each and every seat train into and out of each and every seat at their whim. And there isn't anything we can do to stop them.
When I was displaced (albeit under last contract) I was sent to my new seat out of order and they simply paid me the former rate until the time I should have been activated in the new seat. I wasn't alone. No rhyme or reason, no justification or explanation as to why, they just did it. In some regards we are powerless. Training is one of them, no matter how we try to protect ourselves with contract language.
You can be displaced by someone who's displaced. A 777 FO who's senior to a 757 CA can't just take their seat with no vacancy because all of the sudden they've decided they want to be a CA. If they were displaced they can. People are being displaced in most seats so there are very few vacancies.
My guess is that most of the people complaining about the seniority aspect of this weren't displaced and therefore can't move seats. If that's not the case then they need to talk to the union, but there's been a ton of confusion on this. You can't just bump people if you can hold your current seat.
As for the training out of order... Yeah... That's been happening on this contract. I bet we have 757 FOs who've lost more than $100k on the company refusing to train them. I hope there's a fix for that in the new contract which reflects the actual pay loss that those guys were taking.