Originally Posted by CincoDeMayo

See, that’s the entitlement junk right there.

Most of the time I actually brief “ramp is open, so we will call them,” when it’s their leg, they brief. You think it’s “pleasurable” for us? You think any CA would rather have someone who just doesn’t care vs someone solid? You have to be joking.

But that doesn’t even matter. This is a professional flying job, guys demand big money and guys are getting paid well, reaching six figures in their mid 20s and only 4-5 years after doing their first “steep turn”. If you think the job of the CA is to micro manage the right seat and hold their hand through every responsibility of the right seat, well, that ain’t happening. Give tips, help mentor, and help fill in some gaps, absolutely. But this isn’t IOE, this isn’t a guy on high mins, these are a select few who are “along for the ride” and sadly the numbers have increased as NK decides to hire many at first sight.

So yeah, you’re damn right I stop the plane and wait before entering the ramp. I can’t enter the ramp, I’m not working radios, and I can’t spend the entire trip telling the guy next to me what he needs to do, assuming he doesn’t know how to do his job.