Originally Posted by Linepilot63

Regarding hiring, I think it's laughable how incorrect their hiring needs and projections were, a real indication of their lack of competence. Yet, another reason the entire rest of the industry runs bids with significantly more frequency than we do, but that's not the FedEx way. I expect that out of any airline though. Any airline will hang you out to dry given the opportunity without hesitation, which actually seems to be something the people that only know Fred's FedEx don't seem to understand. I made my bed and I'm sleeping in it just fine. These are all things that you brought up. Which I might add, I must've really struck a nerve with you for you to have dug all the way back to my posts from 2021. Consider me flattered.

Those 24 pages aren't for coloring I promise you that. Your blatant ignorance for the rest of the industry is showing, so I'd suggest maybe doing a bit of research yourself or go ahead and just put your foot in your mouth now before you look even more disconnected.

I'll just go ahead and mark you down for a scared Yes vote, because ALPA says the next NC won't do better, because obviously no one could/would do better than them, maybe they can, maybe they can't, that's why we'll get to vote again then too if the first one doesn't pass. You probably voted yes to C2015 too, not that you would be or anyone is willing to admit. Plenty of guys that were here when that was voted in have stated it's starting to look eerily similar.

I plan to take a look at the entirety of the TA and vote appropriately. There's nothing more I'd love to see than our current NC bring us a TA that is truly industry leading, and yes that includes scope. Job security is important. I am not an automatic no vote, but even more importantly I also most definitely not a scared yes vote. I believe I saw someone say "actually read it this time" on JF today, and I most certainly plan to.

And find me a new hire at any airline that read any CBA cover to cover prior to being on property and I'll buy the beer the rest of our careers. Heck, I bet the majority of our current pilot group hasn't read it cover to cover. We choose airlines based off where our former colleagues work and make the best decision for us and our families. We ask them the good, the bad, and the ugly. Not one time did international scope come up, it wasn't a problem then. Management wasn't telling us to our faces back then that they were going to outsource our jobs. This is FedEx, "the greatest job in aviation," never in a million years did I think something as important as scope could have such large gaping holes in it either, not at a well regarded successful large outfit like this, but I guess that cat is out of the bag now. Because if it were that bad, they would've been already exploiting it, because as the other poster said, it's managements job to do so. Fred made this place to the exception to that rule, but now I'd like to introduce you to our team of modern day executives who didn't found this company. Maybe if the company would've actually followed through with the targeted strategy we'd have a new CBA already, one with far less value than we are striving for right now, because the goal post has moved, just the same way it has with scope. We wouldn't be jumping up and down screaming to save our jobs before it's too late, because it's not, yet. You should be happy your new hires are ready to fight for the future. Go ahead and arrest me because "probably good enough" isn't something we're interested in.