I watched the video and PM is right about scope. It wasn't the priority until the company publicly announced it cost cutting measures. Now everyone is all twitterpated about scope and 4a2c and furloughs and belly freight and declining volumes. Very few of you seem particularly suspicious of the timing and most are content to offer vapid speculation about how this will play out completely disregarding the macro and microeconomic factors that haven't changed since that announcement. You continue to spread the FUD and it is self amplifying. Management is gleefully watching our resolve melt away.


I watched the video twice. PM is where he always was and where they guided us to be. To get a quick deal that fixes retirement. His mission is to get a TA. Not the best TA possible but what HE believes is achievable. Where we are is very much the result of strategy put in place by him and the leadership of this union. Our openers were woefully inadequate and our ask on pay is so far below market rates that any move towards the company position on pay would be UNRATIFAIABLE. I listen to him equivocate, talking about what was and what is, but what we DESERVE is market based pay for pilots. FedEx doesn't get special pilot labor pay concession because they all of a sudden are showing up with their pockets turned out. Especially after announcing a dividend increase and 5 Billion worth of stock buybacks. The part where PM blatantly uses UPS's interim contract pay rates as the metric by which a TA should be measured speaks volumes about where we are. If he's speaking for you then you and I are not aligned. We are divided not by angry rhetoric but by actual principle. He spoke and I am listening and I don't need to read a TA generated by a group willing to offer a substandard contract "that will pass".


Lets face it there's plenty of people in this thread especially the "My NC speaks for me crowd" who will vote for whatever TA is produced. They aren't anomalous either, in fact they are legion. They are what got us the 2015 contract which didn't include retirement improvements and has been used to pick our pockets ever since. Anyone who says otherwise even with the benefit of hindsight is either a management stooge or a troll. We are rapidly marching down that path again and those concerned should continue to speak about it here, elsewhere on social media, and in person. Its pretty clear they are listening. They should be aware well in advance if they cobble together a weak "but look at the total value" TA and come out here to start selling it that they will be met with vocal resistance and their efforts will fail. We aren't their adversaries the people cynically trying to limit our participation in the financial windfall that we facilitated are .