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Old 05-03-2023 | 01:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Cruz5350
A lot of people felt very strongly about the state of the negotiations and voiced their concerns and opinions but were met with lackluster responses. Why do you think so many have left and continue to leave?
Simple.

Being junior here, low seniority to give up, young pilot group here meaning slow move up the seniority list, retirements at larger airlines better, bigger aircraft widebody payrates, and a much better variety of pilot bases. Notice how NONE of the things I wrote were about pay and QOL here. You can justify it however you like, but the truth remains those items I just wrote are the primary drivers. The SAME reality is true at other major/LCCs: jetBlue, Spirit, Frontier, and even Southwest. They are having the same attrition issues.

1. Fact is if you are below age 40, with ~5 yrs or less seniority at any of those majors/LCCs including Alaska, why the heck would you stay here?

2. And put another way, if you are a RJ guy in your 20s and 30s looking at the majors, why would you go anywhere other than the big 3 AA, DL, UA?

Sorry but if I was in my 20s and at a regional, even if AS paid 400/hr I would still go the big 3.

Pay and QOL at AS, B6, NK, and F9 CANNOT make up for lower retirements, young pilot group, lack of widebodies, and lack of movement up the seniority list.
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