Originally Posted by
rickair7777
The people driving this are not concerned with legacy service LAX - NRT. They are concerned with domestic commuter service to SBN, PIH, RKS, ITH, etc
Yes it would be a poop-show for legacies, but only to the extent that a lot of WB pilots would bid down and retrain to take a pay cut to fly domestic for two years (less than that after training). Bigger issue would probably be LRD.
But there are people in congress who think that labor structure is the airline's problem.
The old pilots at the regionals and lower-tier freight operators who are really feeling the pain would probably like to work to age 67 for the most part... they don't have the income and LTD that we do.
All that said, it would be much smoother if ICAO was 67 (or higher).
The big thing for me is what happens if the 66 year olds junior to me can’t hold domestic NB flying? Will they get to abrogate seniority? How will reserve work? They get to sit at home when a NRT trip has a sick call? As a WB they only work if a domestic trip has a sick call? I know there have been one-off exceptions for DUI enthusiasts to Canada and whatnot but that accounts for a significantly smaller number of people than 67 would.
everyone looking at this seems to be assuming that these are the most senior people and the real rub to me is when my company seniority gets abrogated by age “seniority.”
if ICAO raises the age I don’t have a huge issue with 67. If they don’t I have a massive issue with 66 year olds deciding the way we’ve done things for 100 years (company seniority) is now up for debate so they can have another 2 years of domestic flying.
IMO if this passes they should be able to fly and get paid for what their seniority holds and be ineligible for reserve. If they can’t hold a NB line and complete a domestic or 67 friendly schedule with their seniority they should only fly and get paid for what they can hold. Even under that sort of system there’s still issues with reassignments etc going to more senior pilots if the older pilots aren’t legal.