[QUOTE=RJSAviator76;3635688]Did we capitulate, Lew? There's a time and place for everything. You didn't trust we would get to where we are... yet, here we are. SWAPA is also on the record saying that unlike before, they will not be sending any BS AIP's that are unratifiable... They have polling data (you did participate, right?), now they have a damn near unanimous SAV.

So.....

Ratifiable means something different to everyone. Would the union send us something they think 51% would vote yes for? That's ratifiable.
will everyone be happy? Not a chance.
After listening to the podcast on the history of the union and how many times in the past pilots voted for concessions or no increases I'm a little worried also. Basically in the unions 45 yrs I think only 2 contracts were not a concession.
if I had been here as long as lew I'd be worried as well.
Flight plan 2020 is outdated already and in that there was too much rhetoric about helping the company as well. Think JAs. What is written in the FP is not even close to what guys are saying online or through social media.
remember how the platform was 1 billion short of what we were told was the floor? That passed by 86%
In just how much this group was willing to sell everything else for the ability to sell back their vacation worried me.
I think we'll do ok but I dont think we'll do what we need to.
Itll be as underwhelming as delta contract.