Yeah, I hope you guys are right and SWAPA all the sudden starts fighting for $600/tfp, the company agrees to it, and it doesn't destroy the company's ability to turn a profit. If living in the reality that none of that will happen is "self defeating" then yes, in guilty. I'll be happy with industry leading pay and work rules. You guys seem like you want to form a mob and burn those that disagree with your wild claims at the stake, repeatedly acting like those that disagree with you are the enemy and must be horrible people. It's sad.